looivy
09-20 06:12 PM
HOW ABOUT SENDING FLOWERS TO ALL SENATORS?
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walking_dude
11-17 10:25 AM
Mark Krikorian is the MAN. He's the brain. Rest don't matter.
Most likely the CIS "immigrants" were ex-undocumenteds who got "Amnenstied" in 1986. What ancedote will they use? How they broke the Immigration laws back then?
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out than some of them were former "Grand Dragons" at triple-K! Not revealing the past is an indicator of closet full of nasty skeletons.
thanks wd - I was looking for the comarata dude - & borgas who is apparently an immigrant himself. something like - what shaped their views and informs their opinions - they are extremely passionate and effective and dont hesitate to use personal anecdotes but never from their own life
Most likely the CIS "immigrants" were ex-undocumenteds who got "Amnenstied" in 1986. What ancedote will they use? How they broke the Immigration laws back then?
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out than some of them were former "Grand Dragons" at triple-K! Not revealing the past is an indicator of closet full of nasty skeletons.
thanks wd - I was looking for the comarata dude - & borgas who is apparently an immigrant himself. something like - what shaped their views and informs their opinions - they are extremely passionate and effective and dont hesitate to use personal anecdotes but never from their own life
tcsonly
07-17 08:08 PM
Hi all, this is the new ID of bigtime007. As many has noticed, I was banned for the following reason:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Disruptive posts
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
After thinking about it, I feel very very sorry for disrupting the cheerful atmosphere on this forum. It is time for champagne, not complaints. This should be a place to congratulate and applaud IV's achievements, instead of that to express one's own frustrations. People with 07 PD has the privilege to cheer when they cut in front of us, but we should not feel sad for being pushed back because it is a disruptive behavior.
Please do not list what you have done to add items in the legislation to help BEC victims, it does not look genuine any more when it is considered disruptive to express one's depression on a board specially for BEC victims.
This will be my last post, as I am sure they will ban both my ID and IP. For everyone who still reads my post, Good luck!
Don't be sorry, but take action. Donate to IV and get your papers ready to file for 485.
-c.
You have been banned for the following reason:
Disruptive posts
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
After thinking about it, I feel very very sorry for disrupting the cheerful atmosphere on this forum. It is time for champagne, not complaints. This should be a place to congratulate and applaud IV's achievements, instead of that to express one's own frustrations. People with 07 PD has the privilege to cheer when they cut in front of us, but we should not feel sad for being pushed back because it is a disruptive behavior.
Please do not list what you have done to add items in the legislation to help BEC victims, it does not look genuine any more when it is considered disruptive to express one's depression on a board specially for BEC victims.
This will be my last post, as I am sure they will ban both my ID and IP. For everyone who still reads my post, Good luck!
Don't be sorry, but take action. Donate to IV and get your papers ready to file for 485.
-c.
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imneedy
05-18 10:29 AM
done!
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alterego
12-01 10:17 PM
The intent of this thread is good. There are however practical considerations.
Many of us are from India. In the era pre opening up its economy, we had many well educated folks unable to get jobs there. The socialist strangle was such that highly educated people had no suitable jobs and private enterprise was actively discouraged. Many sought economic and professional refuge in more capitalist economies and to some extent we are still seeing the spillover from the policies of that era, with an excess supply of human skilled capital there and opportunities still not able to spread to the whole economy/population.
The reason I am saying all this is, investing in skills like masters etc is generally a good thing, but not always. In fact there are many studies to prove this point, some demonstrate that too much education is a negative predictor of economic success.
In our situation, capital is important, whereever we end up. Since in a capitalist model money works for you, and obviously if you have enough of it then you can spend your time doing other things, charity work or whatever warms your heart. Doing an MBA or any other higher education is very expensive in america. It is an investment. If you end up here, it will perhaps turn out to be a good investment, otherwise it will be of limited use to us especially in India, especially if a global recession hits.
Pessimistic you say, lets reserve judgement on that and consider all of the geo political issues going on right now.
If that is so the capital preserved by not doing an MBA in a top ten school which I estimate to be about 60-70K if I am not mistaken might be put to another use.
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
Many of us are from India. In the era pre opening up its economy, we had many well educated folks unable to get jobs there. The socialist strangle was such that highly educated people had no suitable jobs and private enterprise was actively discouraged. Many sought economic and professional refuge in more capitalist economies and to some extent we are still seeing the spillover from the policies of that era, with an excess supply of human skilled capital there and opportunities still not able to spread to the whole economy/population.
The reason I am saying all this is, investing in skills like masters etc is generally a good thing, but not always. In fact there are many studies to prove this point, some demonstrate that too much education is a negative predictor of economic success.
In our situation, capital is important, whereever we end up. Since in a capitalist model money works for you, and obviously if you have enough of it then you can spend your time doing other things, charity work or whatever warms your heart. Doing an MBA or any other higher education is very expensive in america. It is an investment. If you end up here, it will perhaps turn out to be a good investment, otherwise it will be of limited use to us especially in India, especially if a global recession hits.
Pessimistic you say, lets reserve judgement on that and consider all of the geo political issues going on right now.
If that is so the capital preserved by not doing an MBA in a top ten school which I estimate to be about 60-70K if I am not mistaken might be put to another use.
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
immuser
09-20 02:54 PM
Hello guys!
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I am not sure if another rally will help. I believe lobbing in DC, meetings with law makers will be more effective than rallying or trying to get public attention.
The rally that illegal immigrants made some time back had huge turnout and large media publicity - it was a success in that sense. But I think it was counter-productive for them. The fact that no pro-immigration bill had passed proves this.
I agree with the sense of urgency part. With the economy heading into recession and job market weakening, getting more skilled workers into the country will be the last thing congress will take up. So it is important to get something done sooner than later.
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I am not sure if another rally will help. I believe lobbing in DC, meetings with law makers will be more effective than rallying or trying to get public attention.
The rally that illegal immigrants made some time back had huge turnout and large media publicity - it was a success in that sense. But I think it was counter-productive for them. The fact that no pro-immigration bill had passed proves this.
I agree with the sense of urgency part. With the economy heading into recession and job market weakening, getting more skilled workers into the country will be the last thing congress will take up. So it is important to get something done sooner than later.
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anands26
02-13 01:08 PM
Yes. That's right. Anyone giving you a different opinion of things, or telling you that you are not headed in the right direction is anti-immigrant from NumbersUSA. The news for you is that you are not headed anywhere? The worst part is you have no idea where you are headed. What is IV working on now? What are the goals for next 6 weeks?
To give you a bad example of leadership, some core member in this thread wanted us to divert our attention from asking tough questions and told us to attack a Berry guy in some other forum. Let's say all 8000 members went and did that. What will that get us? Is that our mission?
A lot of you are living in lala land. If you don't know how much people are disgusted with IV, just look at the contributing members. I have tried to convince people (Indians and some Chinese) to join IV. People don't. They don't believe IV has the capability to get anything done. A lot of people don't care if IV existed or not. They believe that Congress will get to it when it deems right. Core members were asking a few weeks ago if that is the message people are sending. Yes it is. You are reading the message right. I don't want IV to die. I am suggesting people with leadership skills to come forward and get SOME F**KING RESULTS. That is what is needed. It is do or die situation.
I am not a leader and I don't want to pretend that I am. I ask others who are not to step down and encourage the right people to take leadership positions. I am a very dissatisfied member of IV. Are you satisfied with IV so far? Why doesn't everyone raise these questions? What has caused us to fail so far?
And for the record, I did pay when IV was formed. I don't want to contribute anything more till I believe in it.
To give you a bad example of leadership, some core member in this thread wanted us to divert our attention from asking tough questions and told us to attack a Berry guy in some other forum. Let's say all 8000 members went and did that. What will that get us? Is that our mission?
A lot of you are living in lala land. If you don't know how much people are disgusted with IV, just look at the contributing members. I have tried to convince people (Indians and some Chinese) to join IV. People don't. They don't believe IV has the capability to get anything done. A lot of people don't care if IV existed or not. They believe that Congress will get to it when it deems right. Core members were asking a few weeks ago if that is the message people are sending. Yes it is. You are reading the message right. I don't want IV to die. I am suggesting people with leadership skills to come forward and get SOME F**KING RESULTS. That is what is needed. It is do or die situation.
I am not a leader and I don't want to pretend that I am. I ask others who are not to step down and encourage the right people to take leadership positions. I am a very dissatisfied member of IV. Are you satisfied with IV so far? Why doesn't everyone raise these questions? What has caused us to fail so far?
And for the record, I did pay when IV was formed. I don't want to contribute anything more till I believe in it.
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cagedcactus
10-08 07:16 AM
I have updated the front post to reflect our meeting information.
Now lets start on the game plan.
We would need some help from our leaders here..... what are the crucial topics that shall be discussed, and who are the people in state that we should target?
I think, calling our senetors and possibly arranging a meeting with them would be on our top of the list. But lets meet and discuss first to decide what points shall be covered, and what shall be avoided....etc...
Now lets start on the game plan.
We would need some help from our leaders here..... what are the crucial topics that shall be discussed, and who are the people in state that we should target?
I think, calling our senetors and possibly arranging a meeting with them would be on our top of the list. But lets meet and discuss first to decide what points shall be covered, and what shall be avoided....etc...
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akhilmahajan
08-04 08:34 AM
Please act on the following items.
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chanduv23
09-22 09:13 AM
These words have stopped some people from attending the rally, maybe you should not use them more than million times.
That is an excuse.
If someone wants to attend, nothing stops them from attending the rally
What you say are silly excuses
That is an excuse.
If someone wants to attend, nothing stops them from attending the rally
What you say are silly excuses
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vijayrudra
04-28 11:53 AM
Contributed $100, Good Work and keep it up
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MLS
06-14 01:35 PM
The priority dates moved because of IV's efforts.
The phone calls we made and the webfaxes and email we sent to senetors, really got attention to the issue we were facing.
Congratulation and a big thank you to everyone who contributed to IV.
And thanks to IV core team for great leadership.
Whatever may happen in future, now we know that if we unite and put in efforts we can get even seemingly imposiible things done !
Great job everyone.
The phone calls we made and the webfaxes and email we sent to senetors, really got attention to the issue we were facing.
Congratulation and a big thank you to everyone who contributed to IV.
And thanks to IV core team for great leadership.
Whatever may happen in future, now we know that if we unite and put in efforts we can get even seemingly imposiible things done !
Great job everyone.
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nrakkati
03-21 02:20 PM
Great!
With this info, your attorney can easily demonstrate that you were authorized to work for "Employer 2" at all times since last entry in the USA until date of filing for I-485.
There is nothing to worry about, IMHO.
Good Luck.
Thanks desi3933. That's very comforting!
With this info, your attorney can easily demonstrate that you were authorized to work for "Employer 2" at all times since last entry in the USA until date of filing for I-485.
There is nothing to worry about, IMHO.
Good Luck.
Thanks desi3933. That's very comforting!
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bestin
10-10 08:42 PM
thank god u got it bumped.else i would have been there on sunday;)
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ca_immigrant
05-18 07:06 PM
^^^^^
I sent this out yesterday...
and just now I sent an email to 7 to 10 of my friends requesting them also to do so...
please send out the email to the senators and request ur friends to do so....
I sent this out yesterday...
and just now I sent an email to 7 to 10 of my friends requesting them also to do so...
please send out the email to the senators and request ur friends to do so....
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andy garcia
09-27 12:49 PM
Exactly correct -..
Back to the numbers game - .... The country quotas could disappear, and the overal limit could be increased, but without reforming the actual processing side the speed of approval will not change.
I was hoping for such a long time for somebody to realize this.
thanks Franklin
Back to the numbers game - .... The country quotas could disappear, and the overal limit could be increased, but without reforming the actual processing side the speed of approval will not change.
I was hoping for such a long time for somebody to realize this.
thanks Franklin
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chanduv23
10-03 03:20 PM
Come on folks in Michigan - please join your state chapter.
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04-10 02:29 AM
reading above posts it reminds me what I read :
Lot of junk sold in US...
People have gotten used to buying things that have no value. Wherever donation boxes are putup or beggers stand , people put money. Come on one does not need to pay because a other guy is asking.
So its upto the individuals to donate. Personally I dont feel one can do much to accelerate the GC process. If you read the history you can comeup with a list of things that changed the way things got done in US!!
Have a good one guys.
that's ok, you are eb2. so no worries, totally understand. no one is asking you to donate, did u get a personal email or phone call from me asking you to donate? You came to this thread, read my post, felt guilty conscious, and thought someone is asking you to donate, and came up with an absurd reason not to contribute. who asked you to contribute in the first place?
History? your I-485 was applied on 2nd July, 2007. Do u know the history of why u'r AOS was not thrown out the window because CIS reversed the visa bulletin? Who cares, as long as you are in the queue and others are paying for your free lunch.
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Lot of junk sold in US...
People have gotten used to buying things that have no value. Wherever donation boxes are putup or beggers stand , people put money. Come on one does not need to pay because a other guy is asking.
So its upto the individuals to donate. Personally I dont feel one can do much to accelerate the GC process. If you read the history you can comeup with a list of things that changed the way things got done in US!!
Have a good one guys.
that's ok, you are eb2. so no worries, totally understand. no one is asking you to donate, did u get a personal email or phone call from me asking you to donate? You came to this thread, read my post, felt guilty conscious, and thought someone is asking you to donate, and came up with an absurd reason not to contribute. who asked you to contribute in the first place?
History? your I-485 was applied on 2nd July, 2007. Do u know the history of why u'r AOS was not thrown out the window because CIS reversed the visa bulletin? Who cares, as long as you are in the queue and others are paying for your free lunch.
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ashishgour
05-18 01:35 PM
Done..
satishku_2000
06-10 05:26 AM
First of all, it is not "my" case. I have been waiting in line for my green card for the past 5 years with my labor stuck in BEC. So, under the current CIR draft, I will be one of the biggest losers as I have not filed for my I-140 and so, my whole application will go down the drain after 5 years of time, money, energy and emotional stress.
How do you come with a math where I will be able to get a GC immediately after 5 years if I apply under the points system? Did you even read the draft bill? How will I or anybody else for that matter, manage for next 5 years without a GC when they are squeezing out the H1B (fee increase, removal of dual intent etc)?? Next would be the per country hard quota that will put us in an eternally long line.
I would definitely compare the current mess of a EB based system with the untested point system and take the current system any time as it is a known devil. The merit system is no angel either. Atleast in the current system, if I wait long enough, I know that my turn will come.
How do you know that process delay would be minimal? USCIS's current delay is not because of process, it is because of the sheer volume of applications and lack of man power. The PERM system takes one month. If you pay premium processing, it takes them 15 days to clear your I-140. So, where is the delay in process? All the delay is from the past backlogs which this bill fails to address and at the I-485 stage where they have to do background checks. That will exist in the points system as well. After you discover the problems in the point system, what will you do then? Ask for another CIR bill??
You don't have to tell what "my" case is. I live my case...
Well said buddy , some people have condescending attitude towards rest of the people. The applications which are pending for past 5 or 6 years will be just thrown in the trash and asked to goto a new point system which will not be available until 2 more years and how the heck one is supposed to get h1 extension.
Hope your labor gets cleared soon and will be able to file 140 and 485 before this mess gets anywhere ...
How do you come with a math where I will be able to get a GC immediately after 5 years if I apply under the points system? Did you even read the draft bill? How will I or anybody else for that matter, manage for next 5 years without a GC when they are squeezing out the H1B (fee increase, removal of dual intent etc)?? Next would be the per country hard quota that will put us in an eternally long line.
I would definitely compare the current mess of a EB based system with the untested point system and take the current system any time as it is a known devil. The merit system is no angel either. Atleast in the current system, if I wait long enough, I know that my turn will come.
How do you know that process delay would be minimal? USCIS's current delay is not because of process, it is because of the sheer volume of applications and lack of man power. The PERM system takes one month. If you pay premium processing, it takes them 15 days to clear your I-140. So, where is the delay in process? All the delay is from the past backlogs which this bill fails to address and at the I-485 stage where they have to do background checks. That will exist in the points system as well. After you discover the problems in the point system, what will you do then? Ask for another CIR bill??
You don't have to tell what "my" case is. I live my case...
Well said buddy , some people have condescending attitude towards rest of the people. The applications which are pending for past 5 or 6 years will be just thrown in the trash and asked to goto a new point system which will not be available until 2 more years and how the heck one is supposed to get h1 extension.
Hope your labor gets cleared soon and will be able to file 140 and 485 before this mess gets anywhere ...
needhelp!
11-15 05:58 PM
and I wish I could do EVERYTHING.
But we need "hands on the deck" to accomplish...
Join state chapters, and get involved in executing ideas. Update signature with link to state chapter.
But we need "hands on the deck" to accomplish...
Join state chapters, and get involved in executing ideas. Update signature with link to state chapter.
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