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  • senthil1
    07-18 09:57 PM
    Actually some of concern of EB3 is valid.But their explanation cannot convince DOS or USCIS. According to DOS/CIS EB1 has more skills than EB2 and EB2 has more skills than EB3. That is not true in many cases. EB1 most cases are genuine except some cases in multi national managers. A manager in CTS could file in EB1 but at the same time similar manager in Intel cannot file in EB1. But only very few are in numbers because of restrictions like working in other country branch etc. So people do not bother about EB1 being current always.

    Coming to EB2, the job requirement require Masters or 5 years experience. If the requirement is genuine then it is ok to give priority to EB2. But in reality(mainly consulting companies) the job requirement is decided mostly in Lawyers office or by candidate just because candidate has
    master degree or 5 years experience. Though CIS scrutinise the EB2 applications still rejection rate is less. And also many persons trying to use 3 year degree and 2 year Master and apply for Eb2 by adding PG diploma etc.
    So it appears that there is no difference in skills between EB2 and EB3. If CIS and companies follow strictly the law and good faith then number of candidates would have been less in EB2 and EB2 would have been current and remaining would have been transferred to EB3. But these reasons could not be given to DOS/CIS. According to DOS/CIS EB2 has more skills than EB3.
    Good post . And there is no basis for anyone to accuse IV of being anti EB3 or anti -anything immigration related . It's a truly fantastic organization .

    That said, EB3's concern are real and not based on Jealousy. Everyone should support recapture effort but I do not think that is the only solution.

    Challenging/airing concerns over DOS 's spill over distribution is a valid issue too. May not be as important as recapture issue but still important like 2 year EAD/AP,s etc.




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  • ChainReaction
    07-05 07:23 AM
    Again, the bulletin mentioned beginning July 2. Every day, any day, starts at 12:01 AM. July 2 is no exception.


    I Feel that what USCIS will do next is not return any application back to sender but DUMP them in some backlog storage room like BEC center and people hAVE TO WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR VB in OCTOBER IN ORDER TO GET RECEIPT NUMBER BASED ON PD AND THEN THEY WILL GET EAD and AP. The only thing is one might save on INCREASE 485 FEES:eek:




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  • chanduv23
    09-28 01:52 PM
    Here is the deal, the idea of state chapters is for grass roots organization. We can't reach out to everyone if we don't have remote hubs, it is as simple as that. We recently revived the WA state chapter and I keep sending emails, one or two respond, the rest are silent readers. However they did join the group and we are now 30+ members. Now, we plan to have a conference call and then we are planning to get together within 2 weeks to meet all of these members. No one is forced, but we would send out and invitation to every member. Then we come out with certain agendas and action items that fall within IV goals. Like one of the main things is to meet local law makers within each state for follow up. This is best done at state level. So I understand the part that you care confused is nothing is happening and you just keep writing. I know the feeling but can you get everyone together, can you get to meet them one by one. Trust me, once you get the ball rolling, before you know, you will have a big strong chapter that makes it easier to pass targeted messages and so on. When IV events are held in a national level, information and action items can be distributed to state chapter leaders who can then follow up.

    But yes, it is hard work in the beginning to get every one on board, trust me, I am fighting the same battle, but hard work pays off!


    Well siad - I am also of the same humble opinion. It is hard work now. Mobilizing people is no easy task, but we have to and I know we can do it.
    Once we start our activities at the state level, we can make it easy at the national level.

    We can let IV core concentrate on their high level agenda while at the local level we can motivate and mobilize the TEAM.

    Together we forrm TEAM IV




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  • dvb123
    01-11 11:00 PM
    http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:YQ8A5L4qUTMJ:www.shsu.edu/~kmd007/documents/WinFSHD2Userskmd007ArticlesDouglas-NationalOriginsSystem-1.pdf+supreme+court+national+origins+quota+1924&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbT24Qc157BZXxEE8b4o6Fcrv-YXTw

    Consequences of the
    National Origins Act
    The goal of the National Origins Act was to control
    both the quantity and quality of U.S. immigrants in an
    effort to prevent further erosion of the ethnic composi-
    tion of U.S. society. The law accomplished this goal
    using three mechanisms: capping the overall number of
    immigrants allowed into the United States in a given
    month and year; favoring immigrants from certain
    countries; and screening out otherwise qualified immi-
    grants as unsuitable to the United States during the visa
    screening process. The sorting mechanism heavily
    favored northern and western European countries. The
    temporary formula of 2% of the foreign-born of each
    nationality in the 1890 census gave 85% of the quotas
    to northern and western European nations. The national
    origins system fully implemented in 1929 continued
    the trend of both overall restriction and nation bias.
    Indeed, the act virtually halted all immigration from
    southern and eastern Europe. Thus, European immigra-
    tion dropped from more than 800,000 in 1921 to less
    than 150,000 by the end of the decade.
    In addition to controlling the volume of immigra-
    tion from Europe, the National Origins Act also
    allowed a mechanism for selection of immigrants as
    well. In its creation of consular offices abroad, the act
    provided a frontline screening mechanism for select-
    ing out those deemed unsuitable for the United States.



    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/usc_sec_42_00001981----000-.html

    � 1981. Equal rights under the law
    How Current is This? (a) Statement of equal rights
    All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States shall have the same right in every State and Territory to make and enforce contracts, to sue, be parties, give evidence, and to the full and equal benefit of all laws and proceedings for the security of persons and property as is enjoyed by white citizens, and shall be subject to like punishment, pains, penalties, taxes, licenses, and exactions of every kind, and to no other.


    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/usc_sup_01_42_10_21_20_IX.html

    TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER IX > � 2000h–2Prev | Next � 2000h–2. Intervention by Attorney General; denial of equal protection on account of race, color, religion, sex or national origin
    How Current is This? Whenever an action has been commenced in any court of the United States seeking relief from the denial of equal protection of the laws under the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution on account of race, color, religion, sex or national origin, the Attorney General for or in the name of the United States may intervene in such action upon timely application if the Attorney General certifies that the case is of general public importance.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/usc_sup_01_42_10_21_20_I.html


    PART THREE

    ORGANISATIONS TO CONTACT - IV CORE PLs endorse this so that a few members will help me. OTHER MEMBERS CAN FORM GROUPS AND CONTACT THESE OFFICES.

    American Immigration Council
    1331 G Street, NW, Suite 200
    Washington, DC 20005-3141
    Tel.: 202-507-7500
    Fax: 202-742-5619


    Carl Shusterman

    Law Offices of Carl Shusterman
    600 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 1550, Los Angeles, CA 90017
    Tel (213) 623-4592 Fax (213) 623-3720

    National Origin, Immigration and Language Rights Program

    The Legal Aid Society - Employment Law Center
    600 Harrison Street, Suite 120
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Telephone (415) 864-8848
    Fax: (415) 864-8199
    TTY/TDD Line: (415) 593-0091
    Email: info@las-elc.org

    American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

    125 Broad Street, 18th Floor
    New York, NY 10004 USA
    Phone: (212) 344-3005
    URL: http://www.aclu.org/

    Center for Equal Opportunity (CEO)

    14 Pidegon Hill Drive, Suite 500
    0 Sterling, VA> 20165 USA
    Phone: (703) 421-5443
    Fax: (703) 421-6401
    E-Mail: comment@ceousa.org
    URL: http://www.ceousa.org/

    Primary Contact: Linda Chavez, President

    Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)

    1801 L Street, N.W.
    Washington, DC 20507
    Phone: (202) 663-4900
    URL: http://www.eeoc.gov/

    National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)

    4805 Mt. Hope Drive
    Baltimore, MD 21215
    Phone: (410) 521-4939
    URL: http://www.naacp.org/
    E-Mail: members@naacp.org







    PART TWO

    LEGAL RESEARCH - EVERYBODY CAN CONTRIBUTE ABOUT COURT CASES, PRECEDENTS ETC AND I WILL TRY TO CONSOLIDATE ALL THE REPLIES HERE

    Different Supreme Court Decisions

    http://public.findlaw.com/civil-rights/race-discrimination/race-discrimination-history.html

    Gratz v. Bollinger

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger



    In 1978, the Supreme Court ruled in Bakke v. Regents that public universities (and other government institutions) could not set specific numerical targets based on race for admissions or employment.[1

    Bakke vs Regents

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakke_v._Regents



    Supreme Court Opinions

    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/20.html

    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/30.html


    Articles

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/2009-04-20-supreme-court_N.htm


    http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/racial-discrimination#constitutional-protection-against-racial

    PART ONE


    This is an old topic but I thought I would post some interesting info that I found. Give me green before someone drowns me in red.


    Equal Protection Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_protection)

    The Supreme Court has defined these levels of scrutiny in the following way:

    Strict scrutiny (if the law categorizes on the basis of race or national origin or infringes a fundamental right): the law is unconstitutional unless it is "narrowly tailored" to serve a "compelling" government interest. In addition, there cannot be a "less restrictive" alternative available to achieve that compelling interest.


    In Bakke, the Court held that racial quotas are unconstitutional, but that educational institutions could legally use race as one of many factors to consider in their admissions process. In Grutter and Gratz, the Court upheld both Bakke as a precedent and the admissions policy of the University of Michigan law school. In dicta, however, Justice O'Connor, writing for the Court, said she expected that in 25 years, racial preferences would no longer be necessary. In Gratz, the Court invalidated Michigan's undergraduate admissions policy, on the grounds that unlike the law school's policy, which treated race not as one of many factors in an admissions process that looked to the individual applicant, the undergraduate policy used a point system that was excessively mechanistic.

    In these affirmative action cases, the Supreme Court has employed, or has said it employed, strict scrutiny, since the affirmative action policies challenged by the plaintiffs categorized by race. The policy in Grutter, and a Harvard College admissions policy praised by Justice Powell's opinion in Bakke, passed muster because the Court deemed that they were narrowly tailored to achieve a compelling interest in diversity. On the other side, it is argued that the purpose of the Equal Protection Clause is to prevent the socio-political subordination of some groups by others, not to prevent classification; since this is so, non-invidious classifications, such as those used by affirmative action programs, should not be subjected to heightened scrutiny.[30]

    One law firm I found dealing with Federal Litigation. There maybe many.

    http://www.vblaw.com/PracticeAreas/Federal-Litigation-Appeals.asp

    Should we not look at this option when Mexico's ambassador to the United States said Friday he expects immigration reform is unlikely to pass in that country in 2010 because of unemployment and midterm elections?

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/08/world/AP-LT-Mexico-US-Migration.html

    Antis are ahead of us in taking lawsuits to supreme court

    http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/tech-workers-take-h-1b-case-supreme-court-024


    OPINION JULY 1, 2009 The Supreme Court Says No To Quotas
    Residents in a burning building want competent firefighters. They don't care about the race of those whose job it is to save them.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640586803076705.html




    VERY INTERSTING ARTICLES ABOUT THIS PER COUNTRY QUOTAS

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,846255,00.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Origins_Formula

    The 1921 Emergency Quota Act restricted immigration to 3% of foreign-born persons of each nationality resident in the United States in 1910.
    The Immigration Act of 1924 provided that for three years immigration will be restricted to 2% based on the census of 1890, and that after June 30, 1927, total immigration from all countries will be limited to 150,000 based upon national origins of white inhabitants as shown by the census of 1920.

    http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/limiting_the_huddled_masses

    http://homepage3.nifty.com/ubiquitous/Japanese-Americans_E/Page05.htm



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  • snathan
    03-28 03:33 PM
    i would love 'tomotto sauce'.. you are the kind of 'Donors' who disgrace IV or give wrong impression about IV - don't know how to carry out meaningful discussion.

    Dont you know what IV's is doing with the donation money or are you just making fun of it. Whom you are trying make fool out here..? If your question was genuine you would have got genuine response... What goes around comes around.

    Why dont you give good impression about yourself and IV.




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  • DallasBlue
    09-04 09:56 PM
    Jaime - SUPERTASTIC!!!

    don't foget to send your info to lobbyday@immigrationvoice.org

    => one more from lonestar state



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  • sc3
    09-12 10:12 AM
    Republicans are generally more amenable to legal immigration fixes than Dems. While not all of the Dems are bad, most of them dont care about legal immigration -- they just want the illegals. If it were not for these Dems, 5882 would have sailed through by now

    I am sure NoBama will say CIR. illegals first. etc. etc.




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  • walking_dude
    10-05 08:50 PM
    Bestin, you Da Man.

    Guys from Lansing, transportation is available (courtesy bestin). Others from distant places can also carpool.

    If any one is just thinking of transportation from lansing i can help .



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  • BharatPremi
    12-10 02:25 PM
    I thought this will happen. People will oppose the post and find faults in Logiclife instead of themselves. There are several people coming up with their 2 cent ideas on this thread asking what IV must do and plan. But none of them want to do that themselves.

    I think this is the real reason for failure.

    Internet,

    First of all let me tell you that nobody is claiming "Failure" here or nowhere on any other thread. The message is loud and clear: "Self Correction" to avoid possible lag- And what you are indicating could also be one of the factor and we may need to recognize it and correct it.




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  • bestia
    07-17 08:49 PM
    I got intrigued about bigtime. Looked something up. Here is his post

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=84985#post84985

    Note, posted on 06-16-2007.
    "How long has your case been pending? My case is pending for only one month, not sure if my lawyer and employer will send email for me."

    Which case is pending? LC? PERM? ONE MONTHS? Is this a BEC victim?



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  • GCBy3000
    06-19 04:34 PM
    Best place to check this out is here.

    http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/senateaction0507.html#1


    Cantwell is there. May be they did not update their site, but they updated the bill number. The heading says "Background Information on S. 1639, formerly S. 1348"


    The word on the street is that the Cantwell amendment is not a part of the list of amendments that are currently floating around in Senate offices. There are 20 of them.

    Even Bernie Sanders has one more coming (Yes, it is related to H1B). But Cantwell amendment is not there in the list of 20.

    Here is the list of 20:

    Democratic Amendments

    1199 Dodd Family parent visas
    1313 Webb Community ties for Zs
    1236 Baucus-Tester Strike all reference to REAL ID
    1332 Sanders Employers to certify no mass layoff
    1344 Byrd Border security immigration fee
    1317 Menendez Increased family points in merit system
    1340 Brown Employers post job at state agency
    1468 McCaskill Repeat violators who hire undocumented workers
    1486 Levin Iraqi religious minority refugees
    1386 Leahy Refugee Scholars (may instead be 1289 on EB-5 investors)
    ------ Schumer Tamper-proof biometric social security card (no language yet)
    1198 Boxer Reducing Y visa cap by number of Y workers who overstay



    Republican Amendments

    1161 Alexander Oath of allegiance for naturalization (may move to manager�s package)
    1255 Bond Prohibits green cards for Z holders
    1473 Coleman information sharing/sanctuary cities (Coleman is redrafting, new language not available)
    1335/1258 Domenici Federal judgeship increase (redrafting)
    1490 Ensign Preclusion of social security benefits
    1465 Graham Enforcement, plus other potential agreed upon amendments folded in (redrafting, content not clear)
    1441 Grassley-Baucus Obama Strike and replace Title III (small changes possible)
    1440 Hutchison Touchback/strike and replace title vi (redrafting)
    1174 Thune Probationary legal status triggers
    1318 Chambliss Totalization agreement
    1282 Isakson Preemption/Home Depot (redrafting)
    ------ Graham Criminal penalties/mandatory minimums for overstays




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  • BharatPremi
    12-10 04:15 PM
    It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.

    We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.

    Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !

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  • eb2waiter
    06-09 07:30 PM
    First decide whether we are FOR CIR or NOT.
    Looks like a lot of people have doubt on this basic question.

    The answer is not simple because of the various stages many people are in.
    In fact for me CIR in its current state is better. However, for a person who has not cleared the labor, cir will not be favorable, as he/she has to reapply.

    In my humble opinion we should just ask for one or two minor things, and this "comprehensive" approach of we are the "pork" in the bill is flawed.

    We should at the most ask for the basics. "recapture of past visas", and ability to file I-485 immediately. Highlight that this is only a matter of interpretation by uscis and no major law change. These two points itself will have IMMENSE benefit for us.

    Any change that is drastic like removal of visa cap for STEM etc, most likely will forever remain a dream.


    I can tell your case. If you apply now by EB you will get gc within 3 to 7 years time. If you apply by point system after 5 years of USA experience and you will have employer sponsor you will have 16 points more than those who are coming fresh to USA. So both point system and EB system you will get at the same time period. Process delay will be minimal as no labor or I140.




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  • coopheal
    11-25 03:14 PM
    These are good ideas.

    If you are already contributing please update your signature to mention your contribution. Otherwise please start contributing $50/100 per month ASAP.

    Here is my list. #1 is unprobable till 2009, so may be we can work on 2, 3, 4

    1. Need a legislation change (to increase visa numbers).

    2. If the above is not possible, recapture unused visa numbers.

    3. If 1 & 2 not possible, exempt spouse and children from visa number counts.

    4. If 1, 2 & 3 not possible, then atleast get them to disclose country wise backlog data, so that there is no "cheating" in visa bulletins



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  • MeraNoAayega
    06-10 02:43 PM
    you should see those dates in sep 2010 bulletin...:)

    & hoping that most of the primary & dependent applicants have filed for their I-485's... the dates should not go back...:confused:

    It has lot of good News >>>>

    VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED CATEGORIES

    Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off dates which will be reached by the end of FY-2010 are as follows:

    Employment First: Current

    Employment Second:

    China and India: March or April 2006

    Employment Third:

    Worldwide: June through September 2004
    China: October through December 2003
    India: February 2002
    Mexico: Unavailable
    Philippines: June through September 2004




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  • arunmohan
    06-08 06:17 PM
    hello imigration voice members.Maybe we escaped out of fire this time but we should never forget that "fire "is still on under "frypan" .So each and every member should make efforts to set off this fire.



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  • needhelp!
    02-10 01:12 AM
    bestin.. letters campaign is endorsed by the core. 5 letters is a great start. Hope you will fully connect with your social network to help IV in this campaign.

    I have decided to do things which are endorsed by the core in future.:)

    BTB my letters have increased to 5 altogether.:D



    Why do you try and find an excuse to do less? IV never said stop sending once we get to 10000... or 20000.... We should try and get AS MANY LETTERS AS POSSIBLE. Aim high my friends.


    If your statement has been endorsed by the core that they want a million number then forget about this effort.I am feeling sad that i was part of this effort.I am not going to be part anymore unless i see some direct addressals from core to do it hence forth.




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  • GCard_Dream
    03-21 04:32 PM
    The following are your words, aren't they? I am not sure how anyone could read this anything other than a suggestion that people in ROW category are unskilled and a worker from a oversubscribed country is skilled. You may be the most skilled, intelligent and smart person around here but rest of us can at least read and gather what you are trying to say.

    I have nothing against you but I wouldn't want people calling ROW folks unskilled. I know you were talking about EB3 ROW but there are ton of engineers, software designers, and many more who applied in EB3 (some by skill sets, some by force, and some by choice). They are not unskilled people by any stretch of imagination.

    .... and Unskilled professional from a ROW category or a skilled worker from an Oversubscribed country. I would gather it would make more sense to give the opportunity to the higher skilled since the benefit to US will be higher




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  • gauravsh
    08-06 04:18 PM
    Does any one knows how is database administrator job market at canada?




    bestofall
    07-02 10:24 AM
    I just called again asking support these bills..I was told he hasn't made any decission yet

    more calls can only make the difference !

    2 minutes call , alot of relief :)




    h1techSlave
    09-21 10:32 PM
    How about a candle night vigil outside all state capitals, one Friday/Saturday/Sunday evening? This is a symbolic gesture for the slow death of our green card dreams.



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