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  • columban
    06-09 01:04 AM
    All,

    I have been a passive follower on IV for few weeks now. I read the news clippings that people had posted where there was some Gautam Aggarwal who felt the point system was good. I see a press release from him that I saw floating around some mailing list.

    Quite honestly even though lots of us disagree with him, he does make a very valid point. IV should consider clubbing US educated people such that 2 separate quotas can be created. Instead of banishing him as an elitist look at his point he is making by just marketing how the country is using the educated. Using a well respected university name is no different than talking about how we legals pay taxes etc. Just because we are educated and better of that the illegals as an argument is no less than elitism in that sense. I happened to go through gautamagg's post after the Guitrezz rally - read his message again sans tone. He makes a point. This CIR bill could have been good for us if we approached it positively looking at US educated people as a group too. Also his statement on the AP report about MPS being good is not totally incorrect in an environment where both EB and MPS may exist - if we can get that i.e. EB and MPS keeps both sides happy and we should fight for that. I emailed gautamagg and he did mention that the AP report cut out that part of his statement and told me to verify that with the reporter if I wished to. I think we guys need to be less passionate before we throw stones at others. IV is definitely doing a great job but people should share opinions openly on strategy - we are all humans and we may have missed an important aspect at IV - most IV folks seem to be non-US educated consultants and therefore disagree with Gautam. We really are 2 diff groups who want the same result with better partnership. My 2 cents. His press release:

    For Immediate Press Release: May 28, 2007

    “Grand Bargain” Immigration Bill creates issues for International Students in Economics, Finance and Business

    Mountain View, CA – May 28, 2007 – The US Senate is actively debating the proposed “Bi-partisan Grand Bargain” Immigration Reform bill. While the bill does have many provisions to attract educated people from outside the US, it also creates restrictions for people with an economics/ finance background.

    One of the proposals is to introduce an additional visa category for people coming to the US for graduate study. Though the proposed F-4 visa category is welcome by the international students’ community, it is unfavorable for people with a non-technical background or for people with a technical background who would like to gain additional skills outside of technology to be successful entrepreneurs. The proposed category, called the F-4 students visa, allows international students two major provisions that the existing student visa, the F-1, is restrictive in:

    1. F-4 students do not have to prove a non-immigration intent. Unlike F-1 visa applicants, students coming on an F-4 visa will have the ability to have a “dual intent” at the time of applying for their visa, while entering the Unites States, or while maintaining their F-4 status in the US. Such students can have a pending Green Card (GC) application or can apply for one while on F-4 status. This is in contrast to the existing F-1 category in which a previous or current intent to immigrate to the United States negatively impacts a persons ability to obtain an F-1 visa.

    2. Under the F-4 visa, instead of 12-months the students will have up to 24-months of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available after graduation. The larger time window will help students evaluate employment options while staying agnostic of visa issues.

    The bill restricts the F-4 visa to people who would attend advanced degrees in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). Such limitation to STEM alone would negatively impact the inflow of international students to other graduate programs such as Finance, Economics, and Business. In today’s dynamic global economies, technology and business work together. Over a third of the MBA class in top US schools such as Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, and Cornell comes from a technology background. Restricting these provisions to STEM degrees alone will result in a severe shortage of highly skilled international students coming to the US for an MBA due to an advantage the STEM degree holders will have over them. This will impede the abilities of many “technologists” to obtain business and finance education and will reverse the positive trend in places such as the Silicon Valley where many engineers turn into successful entrepreneurs creating wealth and job opportunities for many Americans and add to America’s competitive edge.

    While the Senate has shown foresight by introducing the F-4 visa that helps in retaining people with advanced education from the US, it remains a very myopic solution to the problem it intends to address. Next week, the Senate comes back from recess to discuss amendments to this bill, this press release appeals to the Senate to consider enhancing the provisions of the F-4 as well.

    Note: Hundreds of people are affected by this already. With a Masters in Computer Science from Cornell University, 7-years of technology experience in the Silicon Valley, and after paying over $ 150,000 in taxes, Gautam, issuer of this Press release, may be unable to join his MBA class at The Wharton School this year. Because he had once started his Green Card process and established an “intent to immigrate”, it is difficult for him to reverse the process and obtain a students visa. Over 3-4 years of processing wait times has resulted in many people such as him to give-up their applications in lieu of additional education. But, their past intent looms over their very uncertain future: 22 of them have connected with each other and pray that their Indian Gods stay happy with them on the day of their student-visa interviews in India and that reason and common sense prevail.

    ###

    Contact:
    Gautam Aggarwal




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  • grupak
    06-25 12:32 PM
    I and few of my friends called into Rep. Smith's office. The reply we got was that it would be effective only if more of his constituents called.

    So, we need to get more locals from Rep. Smiths district to call ...

    We need more calls from the congressman's district.




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  • gsc999
    02-07 12:41 PM
    Thanks for extending the deadline, that gives us some more valuable time to gather more letters.




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  • pune_guy
    05-28 07:16 PM
    Hi

    I am trying to donate $50 but every time I go through the "Donate" link it takes me to paypal site, where it says that the transaction could not be completed.

    Did anybody else saw this problem?

    Can I simply send the money to donations@immigrationvoice.org? The last time I contributed using paypal this was the email address that the money was sent to, the business member id was 878.



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  • GCard_Dream
    03-21 05:59 PM
    Disagreement is one thing .. name calling is another. Anyhow, I rest my case. :p .... peace

    Apart from the bad language used by some people .... I dont believe that there is any infighting .... disagreements with point of view is not infighting ... It just a primer for the points and discussions that will definitely come up when lawmakers will argue their points of view. And from that perspective it is enriching this portal forum and not denigrating it.
    I welcome the discussion.




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  • santb1975
    04-26 01:04 AM
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  • zephyrr
    12-10 01:21 PM
    I've been on the website for sometime, started out with a positive attitude, contributed etc, but got totally * turned off* by childish posts like the one from Logiclife. Emotional responses to situations is hardly the way to lead, especially a volunteer organization like IV. Do you think big exhortations and 'quotations' from all over the web motivate people??

    Needhelp, you are doing a great job. It is insincere of people to not show up after they've committed, but what's new? We've all had that happen when we try to arrange large parties where the 'not so close' crowd is expected.

    My 2 cents, instead of using impersonal bulletin boards and emails, lets try this:

    - you * call * 2 of your friends and ask them to commit
    - ur friends each calls 2 more friends and asks them to commit

    I'm willing to bet, we'll get a better turnover this way.

    Cheers


    Logiclife,
    IV is a voluntary organisation. You can request people to volunteer, but cannot force them or scold them for not volunteering. This is not professional. They might have their reasons and the right to work their way. I agree with your frustration when people who signed to turn up do not show up. But I feel this is not the way to express it.

    Ram




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  • paskal
    11-17 01:40 PM
    I understand the need to gain grassroots strength, But at the same time I expect that IV core members to do better than arbitrary curt responses directing everyone to state chapter on this forum.

    I am sure IV core do better, like for example, well crafted sticky memo explaining the need for state chapters/grassroots strength and dangers of remaining only an internet based group of anonymous members and why agenda of the IV will not be discussed or revealed in this forum. There was one good post explaining this.

    Such a professional explanation is required to gain the respect of the newcomer on this forum and his views and at the same time promoting IV objectives.

    IV and rest of us need each other to get this huge problem fixed.



    actually the need for grassroots strength and chapters has been repeatedly explained. and i mean repeatedly. please see pappu's initial post which continues on previous efforts. as for nebraska, we have actually worked with some folks on staring a chapter. ultimately after providing info and direction we need members to so the work themselves, set up a chapter, collect members, use forum threads to motivate, schedule meetings etc etc
    all this sometimes takes time. that effort continues.

    i have personally done the explanations on numerous occasions and explained that we are not an internet forum AND used the very words you speak- iv is nothing but you and me. without each one of us there is no iv. you will be surprised at some of the responses this brings.

    please take a moment to understand that lots of members show up from time to time asking the same questions and raising the same old issues. that is why we encourage everyone to be involved. being involved with chapters and/or engaging with other iv actions etc does keep a sense of community and is a ready source of information and updates. not that many take the advice and so the message has to be repeated. most of the encouragement is done by active dedicated members not by the core team.

    please also take a moment to reflect on the fact that active members of this organization are less than 1% of it's strength on paper. many of the remaining 99% are not "newbies". motivating such reluctant "highly skilled" members and keeping an organization of 25,000 together- and being constantly questioned on "results" (people want to know they will get x by date y BEFORE the participate- and i am quoting this) is a yeoman's task at the best of times for the small group of dedicated volunteers that are working everyday at cost to their jobs and families. at least two iv leaders have separately travel led to DC this week for key meetings. several others have spent the last couple of weeks and weekends in iv meetings, running booths at local events and attending lawmaker meetings locally.

    please be constructive in your role, we can use your energy and enthusiasm, but an attitude of engagement is critical rather than asking why iv core is not doing this or that.....



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  • Totoro
    05-22 02:23 PM
    Thanks Totoro.

    Can Totoro (or anybody) answer this question?

    We filed married filing joingly and received our tax returns and no stimulus rebate. Can we re-file our tax return by filing separately this year (i.e. extension/amendment within 3 months?) Has anyone done this? Please let me know.

    I noticed that if you itemize your deductions, you dont loose much even if you file "married filing separately".

    Thanks!

    No you can't. You must have filed separately. You could have amended your return to file jointly, but not the other way around.




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  • mirage
    06-25 04:37 PM
    I sent my EAD paper file on 29th May to TSC. I received my EAD's today for 1 year. Cutoff date for 2 year is 30th june.



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  • Green.Tech
    06-26 12:32 PM
    Lets do the best we can. If it does not work, we are no worse than where we already are.

    A group of us just went to Lamar Smith's Austin District Office and detailed his liason about the bills, benefits and information about IV. She said she will have them Fedex'd today to their Washington office and keep us informed about congressman's stand.

    Thanks for doing that for us, Iskreddy! A visit to his office will definitely help.




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  • indio0617
    05-10 12:14 PM
    Having an approved 140 and a 485 pending for more than six months is the safe method of switching. For AC21, the key is to have your 485 pending for more than six months. You can use AC21 to switch employers after six months of filing of 485 even if your 140 is not approved. Its not a simple process but folks have done it.

    dilbert_cal:

    That's interesting. I did not know that you could invoke AC21 'even if the I-140 is not approved'.

    Thanks.



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  • man-woman-and-gc
    07-17 01:55 PM
    I wouldn't make that decision until Oct of 2008.
    My personal opinion and analysis tell me that EB2 will soon get retrogressed from what it is today and the picture will not be that rosy in a couple of months.

    I would wait until Oct 2008 and see what kind of visa numbers are available at that time for EB2 and EB3 and them make any decision on switching.

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  • Dhundhun
    06-27 04:50 PM
    i efiled on June 9th and finger scan and photo appt on July 7th. i hope they don't approve my application before then :rolleyes:

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  • bfadlia
    01-12 01:45 PM
    I have recently written a paper on this issue in an MBA class assignment. I give most people here credit for enthusiasm and willingness to do something, but they don't seem to grasp the basics about legislative and administrative laws and the hundreds of legal exceptions that take precedence over the EEO legislation.

    It's sad the same idea gets recycled and reproduced then goes no where with every disappointing visa bulletin. At least someone should shell out the $200, get the correct legal opinion and let us move on.




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  • lataraj
    06-14 01:03 PM
    Guys! lets forget all the odds and enjoy this moment. We have waited for so long for this moment. lets celebrate this EB movement. Do not think about what will happen next, just enjoy.

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  • h1techSlave
    09-16 10:04 AM
    Should we include an explanation of why we need the AP? When you e-file, there is no way we can fill in this information online.

    ... and prepared the following documents to be send:

    -Copy of a e-filed I-131 receipt (.pdf, received right after submission, credit card payment reflected)
    -Copy of Notice of Action for e-filed I-131 (received from USCIS, paper)
    -Copy of I-485 receipt
    -Copy of last Advance Parole
    -2 photographs.

    I hope this is what is required as supplemental docs.

    Best wishes!!!




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  • rayoflight
    05-20 01:58 PM
    As the MD State Chapter Leader I urge the DC/MD/VA Members to make our presence felt and lead this effort.




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  • sundevil
    05-31 04:51 PM
    Me too! :confused:

    From http://www.parlipro.org/table.htm definitions it does not seem that bad to lay on the table. Seems to indicate that it can be taken up for vote and establishes a priority over newer motions(amendments in our case). May be I need a law degree to understand this.:eek:


    I am confused. it is very contradicting.




    mrajatish
    03-21 11:34 AM
    Exactly my thoughts - we should try our level best to get one of these bills passed (Specter or Frist) with our clauses in it.
    1. AC 21 clause reinstated or atleast have a fair distribution policy
    2. I485 filing after a certain wait time.

    If none of these bills pass this year, there is a chance we will be stuck for a long time in BEC/140 stage.




    go_guy123
    08-22 12:13 PM
    I am seriously considering this option. I have over 6 years experience as Manager in two large Indian IT companies (part of which is in L1A visa). However, I have detailed experience letter for about 2.5 years. The other company (through which I came on L1A earlier) does not give detailed experience letter per their policy. They gave a summary letter with start date-end date, designation and basic salary. I can get maximum point with 4 years experience.

    Does anyone know if Canadian Immigration accept secondary evidence like coworkers letter and/or my job description as mentioned in the L1 petition by that company.

    Also, does anyone know how much prep is required for IELTS ?

    Your L1 petition and letter from coworkers in letterhead is good enough. Write a cover letter describing your job and give photocopies of the evidence. I used my H1B petition
    to provide my job description.



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