cagedcactus
10-22 10:19 AM
yes it was very encouraging to see all the confirmed and some more showed up...
We could clearly see that all the members were upbeat and ready to go...
WD, many thanks for the information and material you prepared for the meeting. You are clearly our technical and knowledge source leader....
We will continue with the game plan... as you noted down step by step.
Our first goal now is to have a phone meeting with leaders where we can gather up some training material, and discussion points.
We also need some information on how to approach the senators locally, and set up meetings... what should be brought up in the meeting and what should be avoided... etc...
I appreciate all those who came, and also those who wanted to come but couldnt due to some legit reasons....
Our first meeting was a huge step. Others need to see this, and start participating in the local drive.... we dont need your money here, you can continue contributing to IV .... we just need your time and help so we can do this together..... we can defeat this monster together....
Rise Michigan.... rise now.... we do this now.... or never..... for the sake of your family, friends, fellow countrymen, and all those who are affected due to these unfair backlogs....
We could clearly see that all the members were upbeat and ready to go...
WD, many thanks for the information and material you prepared for the meeting. You are clearly our technical and knowledge source leader....
We will continue with the game plan... as you noted down step by step.
Our first goal now is to have a phone meeting with leaders where we can gather up some training material, and discussion points.
We also need some information on how to approach the senators locally, and set up meetings... what should be brought up in the meeting and what should be avoided... etc...
I appreciate all those who came, and also those who wanted to come but couldnt due to some legit reasons....
Our first meeting was a huge step. Others need to see this, and start participating in the local drive.... we dont need your money here, you can continue contributing to IV .... we just need your time and help so we can do this together..... we can defeat this monster together....
Rise Michigan.... rise now.... we do this now.... or never..... for the sake of your family, friends, fellow countrymen, and all those who are affected due to these unfair backlogs....
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franklin
09-27 01:02 AM
I think it is important to maintain diversity in the overall immigration. However the immigration law has never resulted in achieving diversity. In the period 1900-1910, immigrants came from Italy (22%), Austria (20%) and Russia (18%). In the 1950-1960 period Germany provided 20% of immigrants. In the 1991-2000 period Mexico provided almost 22% of immigrants. In the FY 2005, Mexico provided around 161,000 immigrants (around 17%) of immigrants. It is easy to fix a quota for those immigration categories where visa numbers are limited such as for employment. However spouses and minor children of naturalized citizens have no waiting period. So it will be very hard to control the immigration percentages based on country of origin unless there is a quota for US citizen spouses, and children of US citizens wantin to immigrate!
The problem here is that we don't have a country quota for foreign students and H1Bs. Thus when these people try to become permanent residents then the quota's are applied and that is the core problem. My take is that country quota should not be applied for employment based immigration. Employers should not be forced in to an affirmative action plan but rather hire the right person for the job.
Source for my above data, if you like to do some weekend reading:
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/92948.pdf
Sorry - I can't currently access the report you quote your oringinal figures from at the beginning of your quote. Are these numbers of total immigration, or immigration in the highly skilled category?
The problem here is that we don't have a country quota for foreign students and H1Bs. Thus when these people try to become permanent residents then the quota's are applied and that is the core problem. My take is that country quota should not be applied for employment based immigration. Employers should not be forced in to an affirmative action plan but rather hire the right person for the job.
Source for my above data, if you like to do some weekend reading:
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/92948.pdf
Sorry - I can't currently access the report you quote your oringinal figures from at the beginning of your quote. Are these numbers of total immigration, or immigration in the highly skilled category?
kopra
09-12 11:32 AM
I think Both Sen.Obama and Sen.McCain are interested in legal Immigration. Mitt Romney was a big Advocate of legal Immigration. But of course, these are not the priority Items for both the candidates and also have to reassure the citizens that they will create new Jobs. Both of their plans will not affect Outsourcing
Sen. Obama Proposes to end the tax breaks for companies who outsource their work to other countries. This will not have any Significant effect on Outsourcing, as companies save much more by outsourcing , than tax breaks.
Sen. McCain already said that the lost jobs are lost, he will invest in re-training the workforce and find new areas of employment which cannot be outsourced.
I dont expect this Question to be heard in the forthcoming debates , as this Question was asked since the interview was conducted in Columbia Univ( University who supports EB Immigration)
Seriously...both r of no use as far as legal immigration is concerned
Sen. Obama Proposes to end the tax breaks for companies who outsource their work to other countries. This will not have any Significant effect on Outsourcing, as companies save much more by outsourcing , than tax breaks.
Sen. McCain already said that the lost jobs are lost, he will invest in re-training the workforce and find new areas of employment which cannot be outsourced.
I dont expect this Question to be heard in the forthcoming debates , as this Question was asked since the interview was conducted in Columbia Univ( University who supports EB Immigration)
Seriously...both r of no use as far as legal immigration is concerned
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slowwin
06-24 09:05 AM
Called Rep Lamar Smith's office and requested him to support the three House bills.
The lady was nice at the other end of phone. I informed her that I was calling form Houston Texas and also told her that I am a member of Immigration Voice.
The lady was nice at the other end of phone. I informed her that I was calling form Houston Texas and also told her that I am a member of Immigration Voice.
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DallasBlue
09-07 06:09 PM
I got your PM, did you get mine?
Nope. I did not get your PM yet.
Nope. I did not get your PM yet.
test101
07-05 12:46 PM
called Kennedy office at Washington: They said that the sentor is aware of it but do not know what he action.
called kerry office at Washington: they directed me to the boston office.
Called Cornyn office: They said the sentor is out of town and they will pass the issue for him. The one i spoke to does not know the position of the sentor on this issue.
called kerry office at Washington: they directed me to the boston office.
Called Cornyn office: They said the sentor is out of town and they will pass the issue for him. The one i spoke to does not know the position of the sentor on this issue.
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nomad
07-20 08:28 PM
I filed I-140 on July 5, and was hoping to get the receipt by this week because as per the press release ( dated 7/13), NSC was supposed to be time complaint with regards to I-140 receipt date by 7/18/2007. But they again changed to 8/1/2007. You never know they will NOT change it again!
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gk_2000
03-26 09:15 PM
Here I will summarize why we are unable to work with each another
Agreed 100% Porters will eat everything, there will be no movement.
By this and a later post MC is showing openly brazen attitude toward EB3 applicants. Such posts should be first of all, banned from IV and I am going to report all such posts.
Based on Visa Bulletin report, it seems like massive retrogression is likely for EB3 as well as EB2 :( for the rest of the year. Many have ported and some hibernating applications are now active. :(
You wouldn't show this :( expression if it were YOUR hibernating application. Also see if Mr. Nathan's comment below would apply to you
When I said that there should be one Item in IV agenda to Ban Porting, everyone got mad.
I still say that they should be allowed to port but should go back in line. they are disturbing the balance. I am not against them, if they were EB2 candidates why they didnt file on EB2 category at first, if now they think they are qualified then they should start new process.
BTW. they will create a big retrogression for EB2 then EB2 people have to port to EB3
Red dots are welcome.
Thanks
This is the brazen post I was talking about earlier. Even MC himself acknowledges that this post is "unhelpful", and he is deliberately doing this. This gives a negative impression of how serious this person is. I would urge him to buck up and learn to work with everyone, and quit watching "balance" from his sole viewpoint
I have done some study and can understand not many are porting. But there are few.
But if we raise our voice against porting, they will raise theirs with double the intensity against spillovers. So I dont think we should throw stones on their houses, when ours are made of glass. Moreoever if we see the statistics, there is a HUGE # of EB2 applicants in 2007 onwards I think. Unless we all act together, its not going anywhere.
I know many cases where newer applicants applied in EB2 and were much lesser in hierarchy than their bosses who are in EB3 and waiting. I think we must respect that, and more importantly as soon as raise our voice, they will not keep quite, right. You would also not keep quite if in their shoes.
Best will be if IV comes up with some programs to reduce this backlogs.
This is an "us vs them" argument. Not upto the standard desirable from IV point of view
People with EB3 applications should be allowed to port. But these should be EB3 applications which were genuinely applied and not substitute labor which opened during July 2007 fiasco.
Because a EB3 application with substitute labor in July 2007 has a priority date of 2002,2003,2004,2005 or even 2006. Where as a genuinely applied Eb2 prior to that, had the qualifications / job requirements before July 2007 and they are still waiting.
USCIS should realize their mistake in 2007, it encouraged a pay to play scheme, which is putting genuine people at great disadvantage.
Porting like any option was started with a good intention, but because of loop holes it has lost its meaning. There are people who landed in this country during the July 2007 fiasco, paid for the labor and have green cards in their hands now.
Or at least provide the same level of stringent requirements to port like (EB2-->EB1) . Technically a EB3 can port to EB1 also, but porting to EB2 is easier. That way Eb3's can consume Eb1 number and stop spill over to Eb2.
L1A is another one, where people qualify as global project managers with very minimal effort, could have less experience than a EB3 or in some cases they have reported to people in EB3 queue here from 2002 and are ahead of the EB3 within 6 months.
Understand the realities here: IV is struggling to make even the most legitimate views heard and you are sitting and talking away as if USCIS and lawmakers are your servant. Go for the ONE thing to wish for that will solve all troubles, because you have only one chance.
You wont talk about this crap/crab if you are on the receiving end.
Good dialogue. Ironic how it applies to so many posts here arguing in the opposite direction
The CRAB STORY also applies to EB3. Whenever somebody talks about spillover to EB2, all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs. If porting is legit, then spillover is also legit and EB3s need to accept that.
Porting was always there and porting must not be more than 300/quarter this year (other wise EB2 PD dates would have retrogressed or gone back). Porting was not something started in FY2011 or FY2010. However, I do accept that the frequency of EB3-EB2 porting has increased slightly due to more US companies outsourcing IT jobs (bad economy -> more outsourcing to reduce costs{check the stock of CTSH!} -> demand for consultants -> resulting in firms like CTSH and small consulting companies agreeing to EB3-EB2 porting to keep talent). Outsourcing will not always result in all the US jobs to completely move to outsourced countries (I guess smart people in this forum already know that).
There will be spillover this year and EB2 PD reaching DEC 2006 by end of FY2011 is a real possiblity. There is no need for EB2s to get all worked up when somebody ports or EB3s to get worked up when somebody talks about spillover. There is GC pie for everybody. Just be patient or do something to solve fundamental problems with GC process ( by participating in IV campaign).
-CinBoy
"all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs."
are you yourself convinced of this? I highly doubt.
Agreed 100% Porters will eat everything, there will be no movement.
By this and a later post MC is showing openly brazen attitude toward EB3 applicants. Such posts should be first of all, banned from IV and I am going to report all such posts.
Based on Visa Bulletin report, it seems like massive retrogression is likely for EB3 as well as EB2 :( for the rest of the year. Many have ported and some hibernating applications are now active. :(
You wouldn't show this :( expression if it were YOUR hibernating application. Also see if Mr. Nathan's comment below would apply to you
When I said that there should be one Item in IV agenda to Ban Porting, everyone got mad.
I still say that they should be allowed to port but should go back in line. they are disturbing the balance. I am not against them, if they were EB2 candidates why they didnt file on EB2 category at first, if now they think they are qualified then they should start new process.
BTW. they will create a big retrogression for EB2 then EB2 people have to port to EB3
Red dots are welcome.
Thanks
This is the brazen post I was talking about earlier. Even MC himself acknowledges that this post is "unhelpful", and he is deliberately doing this. This gives a negative impression of how serious this person is. I would urge him to buck up and learn to work with everyone, and quit watching "balance" from his sole viewpoint
I have done some study and can understand not many are porting. But there are few.
But if we raise our voice against porting, they will raise theirs with double the intensity against spillovers. So I dont think we should throw stones on their houses, when ours are made of glass. Moreoever if we see the statistics, there is a HUGE # of EB2 applicants in 2007 onwards I think. Unless we all act together, its not going anywhere.
I know many cases where newer applicants applied in EB2 and were much lesser in hierarchy than their bosses who are in EB3 and waiting. I think we must respect that, and more importantly as soon as raise our voice, they will not keep quite, right. You would also not keep quite if in their shoes.
Best will be if IV comes up with some programs to reduce this backlogs.
This is an "us vs them" argument. Not upto the standard desirable from IV point of view
People with EB3 applications should be allowed to port. But these should be EB3 applications which were genuinely applied and not substitute labor which opened during July 2007 fiasco.
Because a EB3 application with substitute labor in July 2007 has a priority date of 2002,2003,2004,2005 or even 2006. Where as a genuinely applied Eb2 prior to that, had the qualifications / job requirements before July 2007 and they are still waiting.
USCIS should realize their mistake in 2007, it encouraged a pay to play scheme, which is putting genuine people at great disadvantage.
Porting like any option was started with a good intention, but because of loop holes it has lost its meaning. There are people who landed in this country during the July 2007 fiasco, paid for the labor and have green cards in their hands now.
Or at least provide the same level of stringent requirements to port like (EB2-->EB1) . Technically a EB3 can port to EB1 also, but porting to EB2 is easier. That way Eb3's can consume Eb1 number and stop spill over to Eb2.
L1A is another one, where people qualify as global project managers with very minimal effort, could have less experience than a EB3 or in some cases they have reported to people in EB3 queue here from 2002 and are ahead of the EB3 within 6 months.
Understand the realities here: IV is struggling to make even the most legitimate views heard and you are sitting and talking away as if USCIS and lawmakers are your servant. Go for the ONE thing to wish for that will solve all troubles, because you have only one chance.
You wont talk about this crap/crab if you are on the receiving end.
Good dialogue. Ironic how it applies to so many posts here arguing in the opposite direction
The CRAB STORY also applies to EB3. Whenever somebody talks about spillover to EB2, all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs. If porting is legit, then spillover is also legit and EB3s need to accept that.
Porting was always there and porting must not be more than 300/quarter this year (other wise EB2 PD dates would have retrogressed or gone back). Porting was not something started in FY2011 or FY2010. However, I do accept that the frequency of EB3-EB2 porting has increased slightly due to more US companies outsourcing IT jobs (bad economy -> more outsourcing to reduce costs{check the stock of CTSH!} -> demand for consultants -> resulting in firms like CTSH and small consulting companies agreeing to EB3-EB2 porting to keep talent). Outsourcing will not always result in all the US jobs to completely move to outsourced countries (I guess smart people in this forum already know that).
There will be spillover this year and EB2 PD reaching DEC 2006 by end of FY2011 is a real possiblity. There is no need for EB2s to get all worked up when somebody ports or EB3s to get worked up when somebody talks about spillover. There is GC pie for everybody. Just be patient or do something to solve fundamental problems with GC process ( by participating in IV campaign).
-CinBoy
"all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs."
are you yourself convinced of this? I highly doubt.
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tonyHK12
03-28 08:58 PM
What PlainSpeak says, whether you like it or not, makes sense (well mostly; I dont understand that . part.. you guys are making me learn something), and is healthy for debate. I recommend you man up and get a bit civil, so we can all at least look good.
Let us disagree on this, whats that supposed to be a back-handed negative comment?
Let us disagree on this, whats that supposed to be a back-handed negative comment?
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amitjoey
05-25 11:49 AM
Thank You anilnag, manishgc, govindk, sirinme for your contributions
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sundevil
05-31 03:04 PM
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/glossary.htm
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
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lotsofspace
03-14 02:12 PM
EB3 (India) moved 2 months. Good news. But then?
What you expect for Eb3 guys? What may be the trend in coming months?
2002....2003....2004.....?
Indefinite wait for another miracle or a goof up (By CIS to make all current) :)
What you expect for Eb3 guys? What may be the trend in coming months?
2002....2003....2004.....?
Indefinite wait for another miracle or a goof up (By CIS to make all current) :)
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GreenMe
05-02 10:59 AM
Contributed $100
Paypal Receipt #: 2A117364NY238244U
Thanks IV ...
Paypal Receipt #: 2A117364NY238244U
Thanks IV ...
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Macaca
09-10 12:00 PM
He has
sat on the fence
so long that
the iron has entered
his soul
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sat on the fence
so long that
the iron has entered
his soul
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nyte_crawler
03-14 10:19 AM
Agreed. I think there are people like myself whose PD is in 2002 and are eligibile to move to EB2 after finishing advanced degrees and adding another 5 years of experience during the process.
It�s good that at least some of us are getting VISAs, instead of VISAs being lost.
However if this continues we could see a big movement to switch over to EB2 with or without porting PDs. This may in turn help EB3 :)
We need to make this a sticky thread, so that we can brainstorm and put best ways to switch from EB3 to EB2 w/keeping older PDs.
Below from post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=230406#post230406
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_analys.html
Transfer of the Earlier Priority Date : EB3 to New EB2
�MurthyDotCom
The ability to transfer priority dates from an earlier, approved, I-140 to a later-filed I-140 could provide an alternative for job mobility, both within the current employer's organization or with a new employer. This would be helpful for those who want to make a change but are not eligible to file the I-485 application because of retrogression. It also could help people who are eligible to change from an EB3 classification to EB2. One would be eligible to request a transfer of the priority date from the earlier-filed EB3 petition to a new EB2 petition once the I-140 is approved. The new EB2 petition would need to be based upon a new LC for a position requiring the EB2 level of education and/or experience. (Over time, many people with EB3 cases have become eligible for EB2 cases due to increased experience and/or education, and promotions.)
This strategy potentially could shave off a few years in the queue for available immigrant visa numbers. This may be particularly appealing to those who had EB3 labor certifications filed on their behalf long ago and have had their cases pending while they have gained advanced degrees, acquired several more years of experience, and/or are offered jobs at higher levels. Keep in mind, though, that this involves filing a whole new LC under the PERM system for a new job opportunity and that the employer must actually require the additional degree and/or experience for all persons holding that job classification in order for the new case to be filed as EB2.
It�s good that at least some of us are getting VISAs, instead of VISAs being lost.
However if this continues we could see a big movement to switch over to EB2 with or without porting PDs. This may in turn help EB3 :)
We need to make this a sticky thread, so that we can brainstorm and put best ways to switch from EB3 to EB2 w/keeping older PDs.
Below from post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=230406#post230406
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_analys.html
Transfer of the Earlier Priority Date : EB3 to New EB2
�MurthyDotCom
The ability to transfer priority dates from an earlier, approved, I-140 to a later-filed I-140 could provide an alternative for job mobility, both within the current employer's organization or with a new employer. This would be helpful for those who want to make a change but are not eligible to file the I-485 application because of retrogression. It also could help people who are eligible to change from an EB3 classification to EB2. One would be eligible to request a transfer of the priority date from the earlier-filed EB3 petition to a new EB2 petition once the I-140 is approved. The new EB2 petition would need to be based upon a new LC for a position requiring the EB2 level of education and/or experience. (Over time, many people with EB3 cases have become eligible for EB2 cases due to increased experience and/or education, and promotions.)
This strategy potentially could shave off a few years in the queue for available immigrant visa numbers. This may be particularly appealing to those who had EB3 labor certifications filed on their behalf long ago and have had their cases pending while they have gained advanced degrees, acquired several more years of experience, and/or are offered jobs at higher levels. Keep in mind, though, that this involves filing a whole new LC under the PERM system for a new job opportunity and that the employer must actually require the additional degree and/or experience for all persons holding that job classification in order for the new case to be filed as EB2.
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H4_losing_hope
02-09 05:43 PM
My new target is 200. It was 100 before the deadline was extended.
58 collected so far (excluding the 24 letters at Fremont train station)
Besides, I prepare & mail about 20 envelopes a day to WH=> these envelopes contain letters coming in from several folks in CA.
This weekend, NORCAL will do not 1 but 3 drives:
Sunnyvale temple
Grocery stores @ Sunnyvale
Grocery stores @ Fremont
For more details, check out the latest messages on NORCAL yahoogroup!
Proud to be part of CA letter campaign with you folks! 200 here we come....will dig about in SF :)
58 collected so far (excluding the 24 letters at Fremont train station)
Besides, I prepare & mail about 20 envelopes a day to WH=> these envelopes contain letters coming in from several folks in CA.
This weekend, NORCAL will do not 1 but 3 drives:
Sunnyvale temple
Grocery stores @ Sunnyvale
Grocery stores @ Fremont
For more details, check out the latest messages on NORCAL yahoogroup!
Proud to be part of CA letter campaign with you folks! 200 here we come....will dig about in SF :)
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gcandgc
05-19 03:12 PM
Dear Pappu
The initiative and effort you and other administrators doing at Immigration voice is commendable. As I have taken up new job only recently i am not able to make it for the advocacy day at Washington. But I had contributed for the advocacy day seperate and the confirmation number is Transaction ID: 8PU10373M6541872R.
Thanks again for all your time and effort.
GCANDGC
The initiative and effort you and other administrators doing at Immigration voice is commendable. As I have taken up new job only recently i am not able to make it for the advocacy day at Washington. But I had contributed for the advocacy day seperate and the confirmation number is Transaction ID: 8PU10373M6541872R.
Thanks again for all your time and effort.
GCANDGC
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johny5278
06-19 03:23 PM
hey
I didnt mean to offend you... i really appreciate the awareness (and hope) that you have brought to this issue.
I apologize if my selection of words have hurt you or anybody else in this forum.
I didnt mean to offend you... i really appreciate the awareness (and hope) that you have brought to this issue.
I apologize if my selection of words have hurt you or anybody else in this forum.
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ramus
06-14 05:46 AM
Yes you can file for 485..
I missed this news.
Who can apply for 485?
My Labor was approved and I-140 pending.
My PD is Feb, 2006.
Can I apply for 485 now.
My both daughters are in India.
If I can apply now then I will have to bring my daughters immdtly to U.S.
Please can some body help me.
With regards,
Ricky
I missed this news.
Who can apply for 485?
My Labor was approved and I-140 pending.
My PD is Feb, 2006.
Can I apply for 485 now.
My both daughters are in India.
If I can apply now then I will have to bring my daughters immdtly to U.S.
Please can some body help me.
With regards,
Ricky
bhobama
05-31 02:07 PM
Could not agree more. We are masters of everything related to caste, quotas and discrimination and we need to fix our own house before complaining about other countries, airlines etc.
Well one can avoid Air France if it 'makes you feel better'
The Crux of the matter is 'Indians discriminate Indians !!!!'. You see that everyday.....
1.Indian embassies in US...
2.Air India service is better for Goras and Goris than us...
3.Even in a website called IV and the list goes on and on.
Its been long forgotten that we were once the richest country in the world with a amazing history and cultural background.
Bottom line: Once a fellow Indian starts respecting another fellow Indian 'others will follow'.
Cheers!!!
Well one can avoid Air France if it 'makes you feel better'
The Crux of the matter is 'Indians discriminate Indians !!!!'. You see that everyday.....
1.Indian embassies in US...
2.Air India service is better for Goras and Goris than us...
3.Even in a website called IV and the list goes on and on.
Its been long forgotten that we were once the richest country in the world with a amazing history and cultural background.
Bottom line: Once a fellow Indian starts respecting another fellow Indian 'others will follow'.
Cheers!!!
Almond
07-05 11:08 AM
After giving all b..t answers she was asking me Do you need any other help sir? And I was like.. Ya... Just b..t down and I will show you what USCIS just did on July 2nd to us. We still can not sit properly :)
OMG ahahahah:D I once asked one of them if she ever got tired of having to say alll that stuff they say when they first pick up the line. "thank you for calling blah blah in order to blah blah we may need to ask you blah blah blah" and 5 minutes later they ask you like, 4 questions. She said no, she likes her job. I'd say that too if I knew there was a chance the conversation was recorded, as their phone messages say. Now I just interrupt and go "You're welcome, and NO, not in the military, YES it's about an i485 application, NO it's not about an appointment, YES I have a question.
OMG ahahahah:D I once asked one of them if she ever got tired of having to say alll that stuff they say when they first pick up the line. "thank you for calling blah blah in order to blah blah we may need to ask you blah blah blah" and 5 minutes later they ask you like, 4 questions. She said no, she likes her job. I'd say that too if I knew there was a chance the conversation was recorded, as their phone messages say. Now I just interrupt and go "You're welcome, and NO, not in the military, YES it's about an i485 application, NO it's not about an appointment, YES I have a question.
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